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Mitigating the Length-Scaling Tax with Online Distillation

Xu Wan, Wenyue Xu, Shengjie Zhao, Mingyang Sun

arXiv:2609.38854v1cs.LGcs.AI

TL;DR

The paper addresses the lack of a systematic way to quantify excess length on already-solved queries without commensurate accuracy gains. It proposes LSD, routing solved prompts to on-policy distillation and unsolved prompts to RL, and reports reduced LST while matching or improving average Pass@1 over RL.

  • Problem

    Existing evaluations lack a systematic metric for unintended lengthening on easy queries, while aggregate response length does not explicitly capture whether concise behavior on solved queries is preserved.

    Source: §1 · pp. 1–2
  • Method

    LSD routes solved prompt groups to on-policy self-distillation and retains the RLVR objective for unsolved groups, using a rolling EMA teacher from the same policy lineage.

    Source: §1 · p. 2
  • Results

    LSD with SG-FKL matches or improves average Pass@1 over RL, reducing LST from 19.0% to −3.7% on single-turn reasoning and from 31.4% to 13.7% on multi-turn agentic tasks.

    Source: §1 · p. 2
  • Takeaways & Limitations

    LSD demonstrates reduced easy-query cost with strong benchmark performance on single-turn mathematical reasoning and multi-turn agentic tasks.

    Source: §6 · p. 9

    With the default τ = 1 easy-set threshold, every sampled rollout for selected queries is correct at the anchor checkpoint.

    Source: §2 · p. 3

Abstract

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Length scaling during reinforcement-learning (RL) post-training is often viewed as a sign of improved reasoning ability, especially on difficult problems, but may also make responses to already-solved problems unnecessarily verbose. We quantify this side effect as the length-scaling tax (LST): excess response length on already-solved queries without a commensurate accuracy gain. To mitigate LST, we propose Length Self-Distillation (LSD), which routes solved prompts to on-policy distillation and retains the original RL objective for unsolved prompts. LSD uses an exponential moving average of the online policy as its teacher, requiring no external model. We find that LSD achieves comparable or better performance than RL across multiple variants, while substantially curbing response-length growth on easy queries. LSD reduces LST from 19.0% to -3.7% on single-turn reasoning and from 31.4% to 13.7% on multi-turn agentic tasks, demonstrating that LSD effectively preserves concise response patterns on easy queries while supporting efficient exploration on difficult queries during RL post-training.

1 INTRODUCTION

The introduction frames excess length on already-solved queries as a gap in reasoning-efficiency evaluation and proposes LSD to preserve concise behavior on solved prompts while retaining RLVR for unsolved ones. It reports that LSD with SG-FKL matches or improves average Pass@1 over RL while reducing LST across single-turn and multi-turn tasks.

1 INTRODUCTION

  • Standard RLVR jointly optimizes prompts of varying difficulty, so updates supporting longer reasoning on hard problems can alter easy-query continuations as well.When all responses in an easy group are correct, relative advantages collapse toward zero, leaving no gradient to preserve a concise solution while difficult groups continue to reshape the shared policy.Source: §1 · p. 1
  • Existing efficiency work often relies on aggregate length statistics or controls easy-query length without explicitly preserving concise behavior already exhibited on solved queries.Length control on difficult, super-long reasoning can incur accuracy costs because exploratory branches may contribute to the correct solution.Source: §1 · pp. 1–2
  • LST persists across easy sets defined at different checkpoints, and training distributions concentrated on hard prompts further amplify it.These studies characterize the tax’s behavior and identify its drivers.Source: §1 · p. 2
  • LSD routes solved rollout groups to on-policy distillation while retaining the original RLVR objective for unsolved groups.Its teacher is a delayed version of the same policy lineage, implemented as a rolling exponential moving average rather than an external model.Source: §1 · p. 2
  • LST measures excess response length on already-solved queries without a commensurate accuracy gain, addressing the lack of a systematic metric for this training-induced inefficiency.Conditioning on a fixed easy-query set distinguishes LST from global overthinking measures and avoids survivorship bias from repeatedly redefining the set.Source: §1 · pp. 1–2
  • LSD with SG-FKL matches or improves average Pass@1 over RL while reducing LST from 19.0% to −3.7% on single-turn reasoning and from 31.4% to 13.7% on multi-turn agentic tasks.The introduction also notes analyses of how the distillation objective, teacher half-life, and routing threshold affect the trade-off between efficient behavior and capability acquisition.Source: §1 · p. 2

2 THE LENGTH-SCALING TAX

The section defines LST using fixed easy-query sets and an accuracy-qualified, minimum-length reference. Its empirical studies find that accuracy on these sets remains largely stable while response length continues to rise during RLVR.

2 THE LENGTH-SCALING TAX

  • At an anchor checkpoint, the easy-query set is defined using an evaluation solve-rate threshold, and membership is determined exclusively by rollouts from that anchor policy.At the default τ = 1, every sampled rollout for each selected query is correct at the anchor; the same set is evaluated at later checkpoints.Source: §2 · p. 3
  • The reference is the shortest mean response length among evaluated RL checkpoints whose accuracy on the fixed easy set meets the threshold.The candidate checkpoint set spans the full training trajectory, including checkpoints before the anchor.Source: §2 · p. 3
  • A positive LST measures percentage excess tokens over the accuracy-qualified reference; with τ < 1, it does not by itself establish waste at identical accuracy.With τ = 1, the reference has perfect empirical accuracy, and when the evaluated policy also has accuracy 1, the comparison is at identical empirical accuracy.Source: §2 · p. 3
  • Global validation accuracy improves during RLVR while mean response length grows steadily across three benchmarks and their aggregate.Figure 1 encodes mean accuracy with purple circles and mean response length with orange squares.Source: §2 · p. 3, Figure 1 · p. 4
  • Across frozen easy sets selected at five anchor checkpoints, accuracy remains largely stable while response length continues to increase throughout RLVR.Each set uses an empirical solve-rate threshold of τ = 0.875, and the resulting set is tracked at later checkpoints.Source: §2 · p. 3, Figure 2 · p. 4

3 WHAT AMPLIFIES THE TAX?

Controlled experiments show that hard-only training produces the highest LST, while the effect of a larger rollout budget depends on when it is introduced. Hard-prompt updates can also alter easy-query behavior after easy groups saturate.

Controlled experiments

  • The controlled comparison varies rollout budget and training-data difficulty, including hard-only training against the full-mixture 4k-budget setting.ALL-8K doubles the rollout budget, while ALL-4K-8K switches to 8k after training from the ALL-4K step-300 checkpoint.Source: §3 · pp. 4–5, Table 1 · p. 5
  • HARD-4K produces the highest LST across all easy sets; an 8k rollout budget raises LST when used from the start but lowers it relative to continued 4k training when introduced later.In the later-budget comparison, ALL-4K-8K also has a larger Pass@1 improvement, although its average and hard-query responses remain longer.Source: §3 · p. 4, Table 1 · p. 5

Why outcome-only RL does not correct the drift

  • After easy groups saturate, their near-zero updates do not keep easy-query output distributions fixed, and hard-prompt updates dominate the mixed training signal.The prompts share policy parameters, so updates from hard prompts can change the policy on easy prefixes.Source: §3 · p. 4

Observable behavior

  • On fixed E100 queries, increasing response length accompanies substantial increases in reflection words and repeated bigrams.The analysis covers 5,824 responses from the 26 queries in E100.Source: §3 · p. 5, Figure 3 · p. 5

4 LENGTH SELF-DISTILLATION

Length Self-Distillation routes solved prompt groups to on-policy distillation and unsolved groups to the original RL objective. It uses a lagged version of the online policy as its teacher, with several distillation objectives for easy groups.

Online routing

  • The router uses the student’s on-policy empirical solve rate to avoid the extra teacher rollouts required by direct teacher-based routing.Over 87% of prompts classified as easy at step 500 were also classified as easy at step 250.Source: §4 · p. 5

Temporal self-teacher

  • Using the pre-RL policy as a fixed teacher can mismatch prompts routed as easy with prompts that teacher can solve, potentially limiting benchmark improvement.The current student’s solve rate can route newly solved prompts to distillation even when the pre-RL policy cannot solve them reliably.Source: §4 · pp. 5–6
  • The teacher is an exponential moving average of the online policy, whose lag is controlled by β; a larger β keeps it closer to past policies.The approach avoids a stronger external teacher or a separately prompted concise model.Source: §4 · p. 6

Routed LSD objective

  • LSD applies the original RLVR objective to hard groups and an on-policy distillation objective to easy groups using a temporal self-teacher.An online router assigns groups according to current rollout accuracy.Source: §4 · pp. 5–6

LSD variants

  • Three easy-group objectives differ in KL direction and gradient computation: SG-FKL, SG-RKL, and PG-RKL; all retain group-relative RL for hard groups.The supervised-gradient variants operate over the retained teacher support, while PG-RKL updates through sampled actions; route losses are weighted by their response-sequence counts.Source: §4 · p. 6

5 EXPERIMENTS

Experiments evaluate LSD on single-turn reasoning and multi-turn agentic tasks, finding substantially lower easy-query LST while preserving longer responses on hard queries. Ablations show that teacher half-life and routing threshold affect the capability–preservation trade-off.

5.2 MAIN RESULTS

  • Across four anchor-defined easy-query sets, all three LSD variants have lower mean length and LST than RL through most of training.The upper panels show mean length and the lower panels show LST; each anchor selects a different cohort.Source: Figure 5 · p. 7
  • Hard-query mean length rises from 2329 tokens under RL to 2511, 2395, and 2393 under SG-FKL, SG-RKL, and PG-RKL, respectively.Thus, shorter easy-query responses coexist with longer hard-query responses.Source: §5.2 · pp. 7–8
  • LST1000 falls from 19.0% under RL to −3.7% under SG-FKL, while LST50 falls from 31.4% to 13.7%.Figure 6 summarizes capability and LST across the single-turn and BrowseComp-Plus tasks.Source: §5.2 · p. 7, Figure 6 · p. 8
  • After step 500, easy routes account for 12.17%, 10.58%, and 10.94% of tokens under SG-FKL, SG-RKL, and PG-RKL, respectively.The hard route retains 87.83–89.42% of logged token share on average.Source: §5.2 · p. 8
  • RL + Length Penalty lowers LST50 to 1.2% and average turns to 4.66, but Pass@1 falls to 22.58%.CRISP yields 40.56% Pass@1; Fixed SG-FKL yields 30.44% Pass@1 and −10.8% LST1000.Source: §5.2 · p. 8
  • Among the three EMA variants, SG-RKL has the lowest LST, but its stronger easy-query compression accompanies lower Pass@1.SG-RKL’s mean actor entropy is 0.0367, versus 0.0743 for SG-FKL and 0.0542 for PG-RKL; the proposed explanation is tentative.Source: §5.2 · p. 8

5.3 ABLATIONS

  • At step 1750, H = 4 achieves the highest average Pass@1 among tested half-lives, 41.85%; longer half-lives generally suppress LST but slow capability acquisition.Larger H also produces greater parameter lag and higher distillation loss, while a smaller token share is routed to OPD.Source: §5.3 · p. 8, Figure 7 · p. 9
  • Lowering τ from 1.0 to 0.85 and 0.75 reduces average Pass@1 from 41.85% to 40.91% and 39.31%, while distillation token share rises from 10.31% to 19.00%.The results support preserving behavior only for fully solved groups, since partially solved groups retain reward variation for RL learning.Source: §5.3 · p. 9, Figure 8 · p. 9

6 CONCLUSION

The conclusion frames LST as a conditional cost of RL post-training and presents LSD as a way to preserve concise behavior on solved groups while retaining RL on unsolved groups. It reports reduced easy-query cost with strong benchmark performance and identifies larger models and denser sampled-data learning signals as future work.

  • LST is the excess length on already-solved queries that emerges during RL post-training without corresponding accuracy gains.The conclusion describes it as a conditional cost of RL post-training.Source: §6 · p. 9
  • LSD applies token-level preservation to solved rollout groups and retains RL for unsolved groups, using online accuracy-based routing and an EMA self-teacher.The method is instantiated with three objectives and uses no external teacher, as specified in the conclusion.Source: §6 · p. 9
  • The paper reports reduced easy-query cost with strong benchmark performance on single-turn mathematical reasoning and multi-turn agentic tasks.Future work will evaluate LSD on larger models and explore denser learning signals from sampled data.Source: §6 · p. 9

AI USE STATEMENT

The statement describes the authors’ use of generative AI tools and their review of the resulting work. The supplied appendix passages also specify single-turn evaluation details and define the hard-query cohort relative to the fixed easy set.

AI USE STATEMENT

  • Generative AI tools supported translation, editing, literature synthesis, code, statistical checks, and methodology and results discussions; authors reviewed outputs and take responsibility for the final content.Source: AI USE STATEMENT · p. 10

A.1 SINGLE-TURN REASONING

  • On the fixed easy set, RL step 885 achieves the lowest mean response length among RL checkpoints satisfying the 100% accuracy constraint, averaging 853.716 tokens, the shared reference for all methods.Source: Table 2 · p. 13
  • The fixed hard-query cohort is the complement of the evaluation easy set, not the dynamically routed hard groups used during training.Source: §A.1 · p. 13

A.2 MULTI-TURN AGENTIC TASKS

The multi-turn evaluation uses BrowseComp-Plus and reports Pass@1, average turns, and LST. Results show that LSD objectives reduce LST and turns while increasing Pass@1, whereas length penalties trade lower LST and fewer turns for lower Pass@1.

A.2 MULTI-TURN AGENTIC TASKS

  • Table 3 reports evaluation results on multi-turn agentic tasks corresponding to Figure 6b, with Pass@1 and LST expressed as percentages and lengths measured in tokens.Source: Table 3 · p. 13
  • SG-FKL and SG-RKL reduce LST and average interaction turns while increasing Pass@1; PG-RKL achieves the highest Pass@1 but uses more turns than RL.RL + Length Penalty reaches 1.2% LST50 and 4.66 average turns, but Pass@1 falls to 22.58% from RL’s 29.50%.Source: §A.2 · p. 13

B ABLATION REPORTING DETAILS

The ablations examine how teacher lag and routing threshold affect distillation exposure and preservation, using a fixed accuracy-qualified reference length. The detailed objectives distinguish supervised-gradient and policy-gradient distillation variants.

B ABLATION REPORTING DETAILS

B.1 TEACHER LAG AND DISTILLATION EXPOSURE

  • H = 8 shows stronger preservation without greater distillation exposure; its delayed teacher imposes a stronger constraint on the tokens it supervises.Increasing H also raises teacher parameter lag and logged SG-FKL loss while reducing the fraction of tokens sent to OPD.Source: §B.1 · p. 15

B.2 ROUTING THRESHOLD AND PRESERVATION PRESSURE

  • From τ = 1 to 0.75, mean easy-route token share rises from 10.31% to 19.00%, while the effective OPD coefficient rises from 0.247 to 0.450.The lower Pass@1 at step 1750 is consistent with increased preservation pressure on prompts that still admit incorrect responses; the coupled changes do not isolate which signal drives the difference.Source: §B.2 · p. 16, Figure 10 · p. 16

C DETAILED RL AND DISTILLATION OBJECTIVES

  • LSD uses three easy-response OPD variants: two directly optimize top-K KL objectives, while PG-RKL estimates reverse KL through policy gradients.SG-FKL uses the teacher’s top-K tokens augmented with stop tokens; gradients pass through student logits while the teacher distribution is detached.Source: C DETAILED RL AND DISTILLATION… · p. 17
  • SG-RKL normalizes the student distribution over the same augmented support and directly minimizes its reverse-KL objective.Source: C DETAILED RL AND DISTILLATION… · p. 17
  • Sequence-mean–token-mean aggregation averages token losses within each response, then averages sequence losses within their assigned routes.Source: C DETAILED RL AND DISTILLATION… · p. 17

C.1 LOGGED OPTIMIZATION DIAGNOSTICS

  • Figure 11 compares actor entropy and pre-update teacher–rollout log-probability discrepancy over shared steps 501–1628; SG-RKL is lower on both.Table 6 reports arithmetic means over the 1128 shared steps, which are not independent experimental replicates.Source: Figure 11 · p. 18, Table 6 · p. 18

C.2 EASY AND HARD TOKEN ALLOCATION DURING TRAINING

The easy route receives a smaller share of training tokens than sequences, while paired evaluation on fixed easy sets shows that all three LSD variants use fewer tokens and outperform RL in reported accuracy.

C.2 EASY AND HARD TOKEN ALLOCATION DURING TRAINING

  • The easy route accounts for a smaller share of tokens than sequences, while the hard route retains about 88–89% of average token share.These are per-run dynamic-routing aggregates, not fixed evaluation cohorts; the logs do not give route-specific response-length distributions or full-run token totals.Source: §C.2 · p. 19, Table 7 · p. 19, Figure 12 · p. 19

D PAIRED ACCURACY AND LENGTH ON FIXED EASY SETS

D.1 THE MAIN-TABLE COHORT AND INDIVIDUAL EXAMPLES

On the relaxed RL step-100 easy-query cohort, SG-RKL and PG-RKL improve reported accuracy while shortening responses. Individual examples show both preserved correctness and regressions; LSD’s related-work distinction is online difficulty routing to preserve concise behavior during RL.

D.1 THE MAIN-TABLE COHORT AND INDIVIDUAL EXAMPLES

  • 99.43% and 99.15% easy-query accuracy for SG-RKL and PG-RKL, respectively, compare with 98.15% for RL, while mean lengths fall from 997 to 757 and 802 tokens.On hard queries, their accuracies are 32.50% and 33.45%, versus 32.85% for RL; Fixed is shorter but has lower easy-query accuracy.Source: Table 9 · p. 21, §D.1 · p. 21
  • For amc23_45, all methods retain 32/32 correctness while mean length falls from 475.2 tokens under RL to 401, 400.4, and 393.2 under SG-FKL, SG-RKL, and PG-RKL.Source: §D.1 · p. 21
  • Other examples include shortened-response regressions: aime25_6 falls from 31/32 under RL to 28/32 under SG-RKL and 30/32 under PG-RKL, while Fixed drops to 16/32 on amc23_60.SG-FKL retains 31/32 on aime25_6 and 32/32 on amc23_60 while shortening responses; these examples are selected from the largest respective correctness regressions among shortened queries.Source: §D.1 · p. 21

E RELATED WORK

  • Unlike approaches using test-time budgets, length penalties, or general distillation, LSD combines on-policy distillation with online difficulty routing to preserve concise behavior on solved queries during RL.The paper evaluates this focus through LST on fixed easy-query sets.Source: E RELATED WORK · p. 22

F EXPERIMENTAL CONFIGURATIONS

The configuration tables distinguish shared training and inference settings from task-specific differences, and specify the RL and LSD variants.

F EXPERIMENTAL CONFIGURATIONS

  • Table 10 lists training and inference configurations for RL and LSD, with values spanning both columns indicating shared settings.Agent mini-batches count transformed training rows; a dash marks an unspecified setting.Source: Table 10 · p. 23, F EXPERIMENTAL CONFIGURATIONS · p. 23
  • Table 11 specifies RL and LSD configurations, with LSD retaining GRPO on the hard route and its gradient row describing only the distillation route.Source: Table 11 · p. 23
  • The three online LSD variants share configuration settings across tasks, while Fixed SG-FKL results are reported for single-turn reasoning.Source: Table 11 · p. 23
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